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Morals (aka He said/She said)

10/17/2009

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I recently had a conversation (debate) with someone about how paying for sex is tied to (or untied from) morality.

The affirmative side of this debate reasoned that the morals outlined in the Bible weren't applicable anymore since society had changed so much during the thousands of years since the Bible's authorship.

The negative side argued that the morals dictated to us through verse or illustrated to us by parable are no less valid in today's day and age than the fundamental rules outlined by the Ten Commandments - that are still applicable in the 21st century. Negative also pointed out several instances where polygamy is ordained by God in the Bible.

You're probably wondering HOW we got to arguing about the Bible from why people pay for sex...

It actually started with the affirmative stating that men's innate need to spread their seed to as many viable females as possible has been usurped by their capacity as high-functioning mammals to restrain themselves from doing just that - although they acknowledged that’s what men were made for.

The negative agreed that it is a biological function for men to spread seed just as it is for females to constantly be seeking the most successful male to continue her own legacy of creating the strongest, fastest, smartest offspring, etc, etc.  The negative also pointed out that the affirmative's argument that we have the mental capacity to withhold from these behaviors is complete shit - because tens of thousands of years ago we were already the most highly developed brains on the planet and we were still exhibiting these behaviors that may now be considered immoral - because the biological drive on both sides existed loooong before we had the capacity to realize it was there and therefore it is much more firmly ingrained in our beings than our relatively new reasoning not to do what we were made more.

ALL this got us to the Bible because frankly, I think the affirmative was grasping at straws once they saw that they may have picked a fight they weren't prepared enough to win.

Then, that plan backfired because the affirmative is much less versed on the Bible than the nagative.

Poor start to the day for the affirmative... I'm just sayin'.
 = )
13 Comments
hb
10/17/2009 02:20:25 am

I don't understand why the 'paying' part of the argument is relevant. Spreading the seed or not or finding the partner or not, I get. Seems whether one pays or not is immaterial.

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nb
10/17/2009 03:03:37 am

Oh yeah, sorry - I got carried away...

I wondered aloud (mistake) WHY would men pay for sex when in actuality, they COULD get some play at the end of a night - it's just probobly not the with the girl(s) they want to play with.

So, are they paying for WHO they want to be with or for WHAT they want to do?

Then it all got carried away into a whole other conversation.

It got interesting though... VERY interesting.

Becuase, it also came up like this:

"So, if you loved LOVED your wife, but she didn't want to try x,y or Z in bed (all new things to both of you), would it be immoral to pay someone else to see if you liked it?

THEN, it went even further and was posed like this:

"If for whatever reason you could only have sex with your loving partner in the missionary position for the rest of your lives - no oral, no manual stimulation - ONLY missionary. What would you do? What could you do? It would be the same thing forever. FOREVER. FOREVER AND EVER.

A great conversation, actually. Not an argument at all... just opinions and pushing each other's buttons just to get a rise out them. ; )

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jb
10/19/2009 02:00:21 am

Paying for sex keep you from getting to involved with each others lives. It also lets each of you know, what is expected. There is no conflicting expectations.

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nb
10/19/2009 05:58:20 am

Agreed.

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jb
10/19/2009 06:27:15 am

I usually pay for sex, three times a week. It also makes it to where I don't get upset, when I am told not now.

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nb
10/19/2009 01:17:57 pm

Same person each time? If so, then you're in danger of creating the situation you were paying to avoid.

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nb
10/19/2009 08:34:15 pm

Also, jb, you said earlier in the month you missed your girlfriend when she's away - is this the same person you're paying? Or do you have a girlfriend AND you're paying someone else?

Just curious.

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jb
10/19/2009 11:33:35 pm

Yes, I have a girlfriend, and paying someone else. She has obligations, so there are times that we can't get together. The difference with seeing the same hookers, is that they know "why" they are seeing you. And to keep their "jons" happy, they will do what ever it takes. Also, the ones that I see are a little older and wiser than the 19 year olds. And most really like sex. But make no mistake, they are in it for the money.

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jb
10/19/2009 11:38:58 pm

Just think, that my wife would have appr. $750.00 more a week to spend, if she just made the effort to enjoy sex, and to make for sure that I did too. That is almost $40,000.00 dollars a year after taxes for not to much of her time. I guess that is the problem of having to much extra money that is unaccounted for.

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nb
10/20/2009 12:58:48 am

With a wife, a girlfriend AND 3 times a week paid - how do you have the TIME?

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jb
10/20/2009 01:52:06 am

Wife = 3 times a month. That is good.
Girlfriend = 1 a week
Hooker = 3 times a week
masterbation 1 a day
massage appointment = 1 a week.

I have a lot of free time during the work day. Without a boss to answer too, I usually leave work right after 3pm and get home at 5 in the evening. When I have my massage appointments are usually at 8:30 in the morning on Wednesdays. That is really getting to be fun, because she is so into yoga and uses all the differnent poses on me. Until you do yoga, naked, you really can't appriciate it.

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nb
10/20/2009 04:29:40 am

ALL of that for only $40K?
(Just messin' with ya.)
= )~

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jb
10/20/2009 04:50:05 am

I can see where a woman with just a few regulars ( 3 ) can make a good living for only a few hrs work a week.

The wife, gets a lot more than that. The girlfriend, I haven't calculated that one yet, but it is alot.

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